Fordham Cries Fowl!

Oh, my ever loving goodness!  Catholic college students everywhere should be embarrassed!  For those of you who don’t know, Fordham is a “Catholic” university. (Quote marks totally appropriate!)  That said, all is right with the world, because, unlike Duquene, this is a Jesuit university, so this makes total sense given the lack of Catholic logic in Jesuit schools.


http://www.fordhamobserver.com/student-groups-shut-down-chick-fil-a-proposal/

Student Groups Shut Down Chick-Fil-A Proposal

Apr 21, 2017

Chick-Fil-A

(Katarina Marschhausen/The Observer).

By STEPHAN KOZUB

News Co-Editor

For now, members of the Fordham community will not “Eat Mor Chikin.” Following push back from clubs and independent students over LGBTQ issues and menu offerings, the university has opted to decline an Aramark proposal to install a Chick-Fil-A in the Ram Cafe.

The proposal, initially discussed in early March, included renovating the grill area, or Urban Kitchen, to house a Chick-Fil-A. The hot entree station, or Cloverleaf, would have remained in place.

The student groups that were consulted in responding to the proposal were the United Student Government (USG), the Commuter Students Association (CSA), the Residence Hall Association (RHA) and the Rainbow Alliance.

I reiterate again: Fordham is supposedly a Catholic school!  Why is a Catholic school consulting with the “Rainbow Alliance?”  Give me a stinking break!  Here’s a novel idea.  Why don’t you consult with the Catechism?  Never mind, I’m sure you lost (or burned) the one copy that might be somewhere on the campus.

The Rainbow Alliance was consulted in the decision-making process because of a controversy regarding Chick-Fil-A’s stance on LGBTQ issues that has been stirred up to varying degrees since 2012. That year, the family that owns the fast food chain made public statements against marriage equality, a stance backed up by several million dollars in donations they have made over the years to organizations working actively against same-sex marriage. When the chain opened their first location in New York in 2015, they faced protests on the issue.

Hmmm…the city of New York.  What happened to that Chick-fil-a in NYC?  Oh yeah, it’s thriving and more have opened.  Uh, Fordham, that might give you a clue as to your stupidity.  They are chicken sandwiches.  Chicken sandwiches can’t change your “sexual identity.”  If they could, I would totally invest with your best interest in mind.  Sadly, all Chick-fil-a does, dear “Rainbow Alliance,” is feed college kids on a budget.

Representatives from Chik-Fil-A offered to collaboratively run unspecified programming with the Rainbow Alliance in conjunction with the rollout of a venue on campus. Due to continued concerns regarding this issue, however, the Rainbow Alliance unanimously voted against the proposal. Several students independently reached out to USG to voice their concerns, according to then-USG president Leighton Magoon, Fordham College at Lincoln Center (FCLC) ’17.

“If they want to bring in Chick-Fil-A, they can bring in Chick-Fil-A,” Renata Francesco, FCLC ’19 and Rainbow Alliance Co-President, said. “But we’re not going to partner with an institution, a corporation that has so strongly supported other institutions that work to destabilize and demolish movements for queer equity.”

I think they’re just liberal wannabees instead of Catholics.  Hey, Fordham – I live in just about the most liberal state of the union, and guess what?  Many of our state schools (not even Catholic schools) have Chick-fil-a’s on campus, and quite frankly, they’re laughing at you.

And, guess what?  I’m sure most of you don’t know the history of Chick-fil-a, but I looked it up for you.  In 1998, Chick-fil-a had 134 stores and 114 of them were on college campuses.  http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/1998/11/16/story2.html  Did somebody at Fordham suddenly notice that these campuses all become conservative bastions and/or places where homosexuals have been persecuted for years?  Please.  Get just a little grip on reality.  When did serving chicken sandwiches become a form of persecution?

When resistance to the proposal started to gain steam, the USG executive board began to reconsider if USG was okay with having a Chick-Fil-A on campus, said Magoon. Over spring break, they were informed that the university had declined the proposal and that Aramark would no longer pursue the installation of a Chick-Fil-A.

Define “gaining steam?”  Apparently the university missed an op-ed by one of its own: https://fordhamram.com/2017/02/15/chick-fil-a-is-here-to-stay/  I’d bet money that for every one liberal whiner, there are ten hungry students who want their chicken.

Francesco said that she was surprised about this decision, because of “Fordham’s recent handling of major queer issues on campus, most notably the hesitation and denial to create trans-inclusive spaces.” The Observer reported on issues facing trans students on campus in a recent issue.

“Part of me is hopeful that they’ll start taking this attitude of listening to queer students and queer voices, because there are so many on this campus and just in life,” she said. “I really do hope this is a step, as opposed to just a final ‘Oh we’ll do this, we’ll give them that,’ as a way to placate us. But we were very happy with the decision.”

Really?!?!  Surprised about the decision?  http://www.campusreform.org/%5C?ID=6659  It’s Jesuit.  It’s Fordham.  I’d expect no less, even though it’s ridiculous.  I’ve learned to expect this from the likes of them.  Traditional marriage?  Not really in their wheelhouse.

Students also had concerns with Chick-Fil-A’s menu options, according to Dining Services Contract Liaison Deming Yaun.

“Certainly, there were some menu concerns as it related to special diets that Chick-Fil-A did not have a lot to offer for,” Yaun said. “They didn’t have a lot to address special diets.”

Additionally, the proposal process revealed that any instillation of a national chain in the Ram Cafe would also necessitate a total revamp of the hot entree Cloverleaf station.

“What came out was that Cloverleaf cannot stand on it own against a national brand really of any kind,” Yaun said. “So we were off replacing one format, but it’s really got to be a comprehensive change involving the whole line.”

Regarding the concerns that students had, Yaun stated that “if we were to try again, we would make sure that everyone that was in the decision process heard the presentations” that the representatives from Chick-Fil-A gave during the proposal process. As of now, there are no alternative plans being discussed to install a national chain in the Ram Cafe in light of the decision on the proposal.

Lamest. Argument. Ever.  Again, hundreds of college campuses house a Chick-fil-a, but it couldn’t possibly work here because it doesn’t address special diets.

While the leaders of the Rainbow Alliance see the rejection of Chick-Fil-A as a step in the right direction, they say that it is only a “tiny step.”

“This is something that I don’t want to congratulate Fordham for, like ‘Oh my god, I’m so glad that you can see this. You’re such a good person,’” said Rainbow Alliance co-president Roberta Munoz. “I don’t want to pat them on the back. You can’t say ‘Oh you’re such a great ally’ when there’s still so many issues with our queer students. Like great, love it, but keep going.”

You didn’t get a segregated space (one of those things that used to be frowned upon when people were sane), and there are “so many issues”?  Yeah, I’m pretty sure you won’t be happy until you’ve erased all traces of Catholicism if they’re not gone already.

If You Don’t Like Chicken Sandwiches, Don’t Have One!

My first thought when I read the title for the article below was “Is this another Jesuit school?”  Color me shocked!  It’s not.

http://www.faithwire.com/2017/04/12/college-students-fight-to-keep-chick-fil-a-off-campus-fearing-it-violates-safe-place-for-lgbtq-students/

College Students Fight to Keep Chick-fil-A Off Campus, Fearing It Violates ‘Safe Place’ for LGBTQ Students

Some students at a private, Catholic university in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, are apparently less than enthusiastic about the school’s decision to bring popular food chain Chick-fil-A to campus next fall.

The Duke — the official student newspaper of Duquesne University — recently covered the brewing controversy in a piece titled, “Student Group Leaders Concerned About Duquesne Chick-fil-A,” noting that the fast-food issue was recently taken up at a March 26 student government meeting.

I don’t know, you’d think something a little more urgent might fill up the meeting, but chicken sandwiches are pretty big in the lives of college students (or at least the ones who attend this university, apparently).

 

The outlet explains:

At the March 26 Student Government Association meeting, Senator at Large Niko Martini proposed that the SGA pass a resolution asking the university to reconsider the inclusion of Chick-fil-A as a dining option for students. […]

“Chick-fil-A has a questionable history on civil rights and human rights,” he said in a statement to The Duke. “I think it’s imperative the university chooses to do business with organizations that coincide with the [university’s] mission and expectations they give students regarding diversity and inclusion.”

OK, let’s just pause on the former for a moment and address the latter.  Human rights?  Please, oh, please, tell me where Chick-fil-A has violated human rights!  Has Dan Cathy set up concentration camps for homosexuals in his backyard or thrown them off the roofs of his restaurants, gassed citizens?!?!?  This is yet another bunch of irrelevant college kids who simply want their names in lights.  Chick-fil-A is nowhere near a serious situation.  In fact, it’s about a million miles away from one. Oh, and by the way , I’m reasonably sure the Obama administration would have sued them long ago over some bizarre interpretation of civil rights laws if it could have, but there wasn’t even the opportunity under their wacky interpretations to do so.

The SGA Senate did not pass any resolution but agreed to consider an alternate resolution to vett the Chick-fil-A Express, which senators tabled for the April 9 SGA meeting to allow time to research the concerns.

By all means, let us know what your congressional investigation reveals, you self-inflated adult wannabees!

These comments reportedly came after the school announced on March 20 that a Chick-fil-A Express would be included in dining options next fall — a decision that was apparently made based on student requests; it is unclear if the issue was taken up at the April 9 meeting as was stated in the article.

Wait!  College students want cheap chicken sandwiches?!?!  Imagine that. I have to wonder if these are also the students who don’t have mommy and daddy picking up the tab for “women’s studies” degrees.

“More than 245 college campuses around the country including Catholic University, Penn State University, Drexel University and the University of Pittsburgh have successfully brought Chick-fil-A onto their campuses, and more are doing the same in the next several years,” Scott Richards, executive director of Auxiliary Services, said in the March 20 announcement. “Now, our students will have the opportunity to enjoy the brand on our campus instead of having to travel to Oakland or the suburbs.”

Here’s the thing…If you don’t want to eat at Chick-fil-A, don’t!  If you’re against Traditional marriage, then don’t have…wait…seems to work for liberals when it comes to abortion. I suppose they won’t get this.

Clearly, not everyone was so enthusiastic.

Martini purportedly isn’t the only person with concerns either, as The Duke reported that the president of Lambda, a gay rights campus group, also has concerns about the restaurant’s planned presence, worrying that the “safe environment” and “safe place” the organization has worked to create on campus could be in jeopardy.

Oh my gosh!  Name one “unsafe” activity Chick-fil-A engages in other than possibly increasing heart disease!  Are they stoning homosexuals when they’re closed on Sundays?  Please.  Google “gay” and “chick-fil-a” and you’ll find a lot of homosexuals who aren’t willing to jump the shark (or skip a chicken sandwich) over a business owner’s personal beliefs, but the president of Lambda isn’t one of them.  One has to ask why the students don’t just boycott? If the overwhelming amount of students don’t eat there, they’ll close.  The Christian folk would wholeheartedly support their right to do it, too (speaking of civil rights).  Put your money (or don’t) where your beliefs lie and let the chips fall where they may.  It’s hard to believe (ok, it’s not) that this is the primary focus of students today.  No wonder they don’t function too well in society and have to retreat to their safe spaces.  I mean, someone disagreeing with them has become a human rights violation!

Student government president Olivia Erickson said that the governing body will look into campus concerns over Chick-fil-A by gathering student opinions on the matter, according to the article.

The piece did note that some students — even those who support same-sex relationships — are fine with Chick-fil-A coming to campus and see the restaurant’s presence as a good thing. While the article only attracted 11 comments, the majority favored the fast-food chain.

Exactly!  At least some level-headed kids can be found at this school.  Perhaps they’ve actually studied the history of their school.  It was started by the Holy Ghost Fathers who were literally thrown out of Germany by the secularists.  It’s actually quite interesting and the move by some on the “Student Government Association” seem to show they don’t even have a clue about it.  Hint: Kulturkampf.  Dear students, you’ve learned a lot about political correctness, perhaps too much, so maybe you should delve into history a little before you enter the real world. You’re running around like little Otto von Bismarcks.  

I realize reading these will cut into your liberal activism time but I have to do my best to keep you from looking so silly.   I’m a mom. I just can’t help it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duquesne_University

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf

Can I also point out that the Catholic Church, you know, the Church your school claims membership, is a little bit against “gay marriage.”  Don’t you think that it’s a teensy-weensy bit ironic you pay thousands to attend a Catholic school and then protest Chick-fil-A???  Yes, young friends, this is why you entertain us.  Some days you’re just like little rats lost in a maze when you could just stand up on your hind legs and see the big picture.

One man named John wrote, “Poor little snowflakes.” Another added that people who feel threatened by the “mere presence of a restaurant” might be in need of “psychological counseling.” And one member of the gay community also spoke out.

John, you give me hope.

“As a member of the gay community, I don’t feel like a fast food option being added to campus threatens my gay identity. At all. Subway has a history of being advertised by someone who is in jail for child porn. Do you believe small children feel threatened on campus? No. Because you can’t associate an entire company with one person’s actions,” the individual wrote.

He or she continued, “I’m gay. I love Chick-fil-A. Do I appreciate that they have made anti-gay movements in the past? No, obviously. But putting a small store on campus is not going to decimate the apparent “safe space” we have here. It’s chicken. It’s fine. Focus on a bigger issue.”

Amen, “member of the gay community!”

But someone who identified as “Prof Plum” did warn against “empowering a pro-hate company.”  Read the article and all of the comments for yourself here.

Alright, Professor.  You apparently led a very sheltered, placated life.  Let me help you.  Not supporting “gay marriage” does not equal hate.  People are being thrown off buildings, my young friend.  Murder = hate.

Chick-fil-A was the focus of boycotts in 2012 after CEO Dan Cathy said the Christian-owned company backs traditional marriage.

And the boycott was so successful that Dan Cathy changed his mind!  No?  It wasn’t successful and he made a boatload of money that year?!  The company didn’t fold?!!  If nothing else, please at least see the power of conviction, people!