Fr. Martin – Don’t Be That Guy!

Only from the mind of Fr. James Martin, LGBTSJ, can we get this shocker.  I had another post all tee’d up but this one deserved a response.

I understand the desire among some church leaders to call for the church to fast and pray in response to the sex abuse crisis. It’s a recognition that we are all the Body of Christ, the People of God, united as one, in Christ’s name. And we are all called to prayer. However, in this case, to imply that the laity, in any way, should perform any kinds of penances, including fasting, is simply wrong. The laity should not have to do one minute of penance for the crimes, sins and failings of the hierarchy and the clergy. And yes, we are all one, but it’s important, especially in this case, not victimize people all over again. To use the model of the sacrament of reconciliation, it is the sinner, the one seeking forgiveness, who repents, not the one, or ones, sinned against.

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Put your eyes back in your head. Yep, he actually said that. It was so fantastical that I screenshot that puppy for you. Oh, Fr. Martin, where in the heck is the Catholicism in this three tweet rant? Sorry, Blessed Mother. All of those times you urged us to prayer, fasting, and penance to hold back God’s wrath and drive the evil out of the world, well, you were wrong. Oh, and your spot at the foot of the Cross was useless, since you were free from sin. Not your problem. And Apostles, you wasted your time, too. Please, please, tell me that even some of the Fr. Martin groupies cocked their head at this one!!!

Sorry, Father Martin.  “Not my problem, responsibility or duty” is a total train wreck of understanding the Body of Christ.  You don’t have to do the crime to do the time.  Kind of like Christ didn’t have to die for our sins, nor was it the personal fault of the children of Fatima that Russia was spreading her errors.

Don’t believe me?

Col 1:24  24 Even as I write, I am glad of my sufferings on your behalf, as, in this mortal frame of mine, I help to pay off the debt which the afflictions of Christ still leave to be paid, for the sake of his body, the Church.

Luke 13: 1-5 1 At this very time there were some present that told him the story of those Galileans, whose blood Pilate had shed in the midst of their sacrifices. 2 And Jesus said in answer, Do you suppose, because this befell them, that these men were worse sinners than all else in Galilee? 3 I tell you it is not so; you will all perish as they did, if you do not repent. 4 What of those eighteen men on whom the tower fell in Siloe, and killed them; do you suppose that there was a heavier account against them, than against any others who then dwelt at Jerusalem? 5 I tell you it was not so; you will all perish as they did, if you do not repent.

Our Lady of Fatima:

Are you willing to offer yourselves to God and bear all the suffering He wills to send you, as an act of reparation for the sins by which He is offended, and of supplication for the conversion of sinners?

Sacrifice yourselves for sinners, and say many times, especially whenever you make some sacrifice: O Jesus, it is for love of You, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for the sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Pray, pray very much, and make sacrifices for sinners; for many souls go to Hell, because there are none to sacrifice themselves and to pray for them.

Have compassion on the Heart of your Most Holy Mother, covered with thorns, with which ungrateful men pierce it at every moment, and there is no one to make an act of reparation to remove them.

Look, my daughter, at My Heart, surrounded with thorns with which ungrateful men pierce Me at every moment by their blasphemies and ingratitude. You at least try to console Me and say that I promise to assist at the hour of death, with the graces necessary for salvation, all those who, on the first Saturday of five consecutive months, shall confess, receive Holy Communion, recite five decades of the Rosary, and keep me company for fifteen minutes while meditating on the fifteen mysteries of the Rosary, with the intention of making reparation to Me.

There are so many souls whom the Justice of God condemns for sins committed against Me, that I have come to ask reparation: sacrifice yourself for this intention and pray.

https://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/FIRSTSAT.HTM

We could go on to quite a few more apparitions but I’ll leave you with one last biggie:

Jesus to Saint Faustina:

You will save more souls through prayer and suffering than will a missionary through his teachings and sermons alone.

It is about souls, isn’t it, Father Martin?  Last time I checked, that would be a yes.

Disorder comes into this world through sin, whether our personal sin or not, and penance and reparation are the ways we can help restore order.  I realize you absolutely hate the word “disorder”, but it is a reality of sin entering the world.  I find it odd that you talk about the Sacrament of Confession in your tweet, since you try so hard to hide the fact that some sins are indeed sins.  Yes, confession by a sinner is good for the entire world, but clearly, the world ain’t getting into line to have their confessions heard. Might be because you’ve misguided them in the area of personal conscience, but what do I know.

Sorry, I want disorder gone from the world as much as possible for my children and future generations of the Mad Mom family tree.  If you think I’m going to wait for, say, Rembert Weakland to atone for his sins and do penance and reparation before I start doing some penance and sacrifice for the disorder in the world, you’d be crazy.  He’s still a little bitter that his lover turned on him for money and the Church didn’t let him get away with sin.  Seriously, I’m still a bit stunned that you would, even for a moment, suggest that the only people who should beg for God’s mercy over this scandal would be those who did it or covered it up.   Sorry, I’ve got kids living in this world.  I can’t wait for the likes of Weakland, McCarrick, Wuerl, Cupich, Farrell, or McElroy to get their heads on straight.  They’re still trying to figure out who to throw under the bus in their places.

Father, you might have missed this gem by your fellow Jesuit, Fr. John Hardon (may he rest in peace).  Well, you might have seen it, but clearly, if you did, you chose to ignore some downright solid theology on sin, penance, reparation, etc.  He was a Doctor of Theology after all and, of course, the Society of Jesus was none too fond of him, so he might be one to pay attention to, but that’s just me.

http://www.therealpresence.org/archives/Lent/Lent_002.htm

Notice, all along I have been using the first person plural, “we”, because penance and reparation are owed to God not only because I have individually sinned, but because we human beings have sinned and are sinning, in our day, on a scale never before conceived in the annals of history.

We know better than Cain after he killed his brother, Abel. We are our brother’s keepers. We are mysteriously co-responsible for what other people do wrong. There is a profound sense in which all of us are somehow to do penance and make reparation, not only for our sinful misdeeds, but for the sins of our country and, indeed, for the sins of the whole human race.

We return to our question: Why penance and reparation? Because, in Christ’s words, “Unless you do penance, you shall all likewise perish”.

So, yeah, Fr. Martin.  The idea that the entire Body of Christ, we who are all sinners in some manner (might be a foreign concept to you), should perform penances, including fasting, is totally and utterly correct, and the hierarchy of the Church would be totally right in asking us to do so.  The laity should most certainly do far more than a minute of penance for the crimes, sins, and failings of the hierarchy and the clergy, too.  And they shouldn’t just do it for the wayward clergy, but for the entire Body of Christ, from the abuser to their victims, with the endless hope for God’s mercy on our world and in our Church.

Just one final thought, Fr. Martin.  I find it super creepy that you are trying to dissuade people from doing acts of penance, reparation, fasting, etc., or from our pastors asking us to do so.  There’s only one person I can think of off the top of my head who tried to dissuade someone else from fasting.  Don’t be him, Fr. Martin. #ResignNow

24 thoughts on “Fr. Martin – Don’t Be That Guy!

  1. I certainly could not believe my eyes when I read his tweet!

    A good and faithful priest that I know was commenting the other day about how our Blessed Mother in the apparitions of Our Lady of Good Success, Fatima and Akita was urging us all to pray and do penance in reparation for these things that are now occurring in our times!

    I realize that we are not required to believe these private revelations but they were not just tha handwriting on the wall, they are now the big screen video in surround sound playing our current times! Don’t these people see what was prophecy is now actually going on in our church?

    They have no supernatural belief. Here it is playing out right in front of them. They are taking part. They are so blind.

    Pray and fast. Do penance. Go to adoration. These men must confess their sins, do penance and amend their lives.

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      1. Dats funnee, OMM!

        I am soooooo tired of that guy. (He shilled for abortion in Ireland, after all.)

        Like some of his band’s music. Him? Not so much.

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  2. Fr. Jim’s motive is clear: To pray for the sins of the clergy is to pray for those members of the clergy in the gay subculture involved in the sexual abuse and among themselves. that is, for acts with other like minded adults. Since homosexual acts are not considered mortal sin by Fr. Jim, there is no need for collective prayer for sins not committed. Such collective prayer would be in response to a growing recognition .among the laity that the gay subcultures is real, causing harm, and must be suppressed. Fr Jim is doing everything possible to “disabuse” the faithful from this notion.

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  3. Once again you have knocked it out of the park.

    ….Sorry, I’ve got kids living in this world. I can’t wait for the likes of Weakland, McCarrick, Wuerl, Cupich, Farrell, or McElroy to get their heads on straight. They’re still trying to figure out who to throw under the bus in their places.

    Fr. Martin could be called a “cafeteria” biblical reader – ignore what is inconvenient for you. Does he not understand the many times in both the Old and New Testament when people were encouraged to fast and do penance (sack cloth and ashes)? Maybe he thinks that doesn’t apply to him since there seems to be no sin in his vision.

    To ignore the directions of Our Lord and His Blessed Mother that we should pray and do penance for the salvation of souls – not only our own soul but the souls of others who either can’t or wont seek forgiveness is too powerful an entreaty to ignore.

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  4. God’s Word says Dt. 28:15 “But if you will not obey the voice of the LORD your God or be careful to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command you this day, then all these curses shall come upon you and overtake you…28 The LORD will smite you with madness and blindness and confusion of mind; 29 and you shall grope at noonday, as the blind grope in darkness, and you shall not prosper in your ways; and you shall be only oppressed and robbed continually, and there shall be no one to help you.

    Madness – blindness – confusion of mind!

    This spiritual battle is MORE REAL than any physical war. Spiritual reality is more real than physical reality though our eyes are veiled, in this life we see dimly. The spoils of this battle are the souls of the dearly beloved children of God. Angels are real. They are “messengers.” They don’t have to reason as we do. They’re intellects are far higher than ours. Fallen angels deliver wicked destroying messages. Guardian angels deliver good saving messages. Pray for Father Martin and his ilk, just as you’d want somebody to do for you, if God forbid you found yourself saying the things he’s saying. Faith is a gift. Pray he be given humility to accept the gift.

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  5. And….pray and do penance (including fasting) for the Church, our nation, and the world in this terrible time of trial, testing, and crisis. That souls might come to the knowledge of the Truth, and be saved. Through the inviolable mystery of unity, through our fidelity, one person at a time, we can build up the Church, Likewise through the inviolable mystery of unity, one person at a time, through our infidelities, we wound the Body of Christ – the Church. Ask just about any soldier fighting in a foreign land and he’ll tell you he longs to make it home. Pray that at the end of this terrible battle – soldiers make it Home. Home to their Father’s House – that’s Heaven.

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  6. If Fr. Martin really is this out-of-touch with our Catholic faith, then he personally is in desperate need of fasting, prayer, and acts of reparation on his behalf – more than he can reasonably do on his own.

    Is anyone else here willing to commit to such acts specifically for Fr. Martin? Perhaps we lowly laypeople could put together a spiritual bouquet, ‘For the repentance and conversion of Fr. James Martin, SJ’ and send it to him.

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  7. On top of all this, or maybe alongside it, is the general silence of all bishops in regard to the magisterial mandate to teach and correct. I recall reading one of Matthew Leverings excellent books refuting the nonsense of another writer, WHO WAS CATHOLIC. Not going to dig out his name right now, but was and am dumbfounded on how such trash is tolerated. This was an award winning theologian of a major catholic theological Journal who likes to tout the “Catholic Intellectual Tradition”.

    The longer this goes on, the more medieval I want to get. I mean physically dragging the sludge bishops from their offices and …….. !!!!

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